Blogoforum - blog+forum on blogoforum, forum and suggestion

RE: Email interface?

Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:18:26 GMT

I agree with mamadrum, and I think this could be a very good replacement for listservs. However, I don't see how Blogoforum-like "groups" is relevant. Can you flesh that concept out a bit more? - 1 reply

RE: Email interface?

Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:17:56 GMT

Hey mamadrum, thanks for cheering me up and for your suggestion. You are probably talking about something like Blogoforum being mailing list web interface and vice versa right? I'm re-organizing Blogoforum so people would be able to create their own Blogoforum-like "groups" here. Please let me know about your requirements. - 1 reply

Email interface?

Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:45:06 GMT

This is a very nifty site and I'm thinking about whether it would be appropriate for a collection of online working groups. Some folks are just used to email and it would be interesting if one could subscribe and post to threads in some way. If there was a simple syntax that would allow an email-poster to add tags (say tag: on the first line) it would allow folks who work linearly to stay engaged. (One benefit email has is that you can read and send it while on a plane.) - 1 reply

Long Thread or Short Message

Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:21:56 GMT

This point is interesting. I may change presentation algorithm in a future. But what I'm thinking about more is - discussion groups (tag groups) and message bookmarking. Actually Blogoforum can change presentation algo based on what messages are bookmarked. This is interesting. - 1 reply

RE: Edit and Long Thread Problem

Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:16:31 GMT

I'll be the devil's advocate here, OK? :-) You can look at it as a matter of grouping messages. You can group messages into large groups -- long threads. Or you can make only short groups of 3-5 messages, just like now in Blogoforum. So you can have a relatively small number of large groups, or a large number of small groups. The benefit of having large groups is that a user once she has written a post in a thread, she can easily navigate back to the place of interest. Navigating means picking the right group of messages. It's easier to navigate in smaller amount of objects than in large amount. So getting back to a long thread is easier than getting back to a short thread. - 1 reply

Edit and Long Thread Problem

Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:28:26 GMT

Thanks for the suggestion Jason! In the future, Blogoforum will let to edit the message and its attributes plus will keep change history. One of problems which Blogoforum is aimed to solve is long threads. Long thread is a problem: - people rarely read what's inside thread - while real knowledge or important and interesting messages can be hidden in the middle of a long thread and rarely who will find them - during the thread, actual thread subject may change several times, people end up speaking on other things but thread novice can't identify the change - because of possible subject change, an original poster may scream "Don't put offtopic onto my thread" - I can continue but I would better do some development However, a lot of conversations do have thread-like structure. That's why Blogoforum does some steps in this direction: http://blogoforum.com/tag/blogoforum+message+thread+tree/message-threads-on-blogoforum-1848.html - 1 reply

Forum Groups are in development - your opinion?

Tue, 11 Jul 2006 06:56:49 GMT

Hey Zef, Thanks for joining Blogoforum and for the post! I'm preparing new method for message organization. The idea in short is: let the user to describe a tag or a set of tags, naming it "group" or "forum", thus providing more advanced "get a forum" functionality. Then we can describe a forum on software and recognize a subforum on programming within it, then we can recognize and describe a forum on PHP within it. That's the way to go. I wrote this in a hurry working on actual implementation so the description is a bit chaotic but you have me here willing to answer questions. What do you think about it? - 1 reply

Trying out blogoforum

Tue, 11 Jul 2006 06:55:36 GMT

This looks quite nice, definitely the best tag-based forum I've seen so far. For some reason it still appears to me as a bit messy though, have to figure out what exactly it is that makes it look a bit messy. - 2 replies

Moderation implementation

Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:03:10 GMT

What would be nice is a forum that basically implemented Digg's comment moderation system. Thumbs down if you don't like the message, thumbs up if you do. Then, the user declares their threshold in their profile settings. - 2 replies

RE: Moderation implementation

Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:44:21 GMT

Forgot to sign in. That post was mine. - 1 reply

Suggestions for Blogoforum

Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:21:32 GMT

Denis, interesting experiment. I definitely think there is room for improvement with respect to forums. I personally would love to see improved "emergenent" organization of forum topics, as well as improved search of forum topics. Relevancy in retrieval is a major problem. Also, I am curious about how you see Wikis and Forums begining to converge. Although Wiki's are typically a knowledge base application and Forums are intended to be a more active discussion, they definitely both have an active knowledge creation function. Best of luck! - 1 reply

talkinghub got Pagerank 7

Thu, 18 May 2006 13:04:05 GMT

talkinghub pagerank reached 7: http://livepr.raketforskning.com/?u=talkinghub.com . This is a surprise. This is good surprise for me! How did talkinghub get here? I would I know! I have 2 web projects which are pretty popular. They are http://dotuseful.sourceforge.net/ - Java Swing tree library, and http://dkrukovsky.blogspot.com/ - "Make the Software Shine" - writings on software design. Both of them are pagerank 5. talkinghub.com is first one with PR 7. talkinghub was produced as a result from "How to Write Software" - I got an idea that it would be interesting to people if I will publish step-by-step story on how to write software from scratch. First post on it: http://dkrukovsky.blogspot.com/2006/01/how-to-write-software.html Some people were inspired in it and cheered me up. Thanks! If you are reading this please leave a few words about you. I got Java hosting at http://rimuhosting.com/ : http://write-software.blogspot.com/2006/02/hosting.html If you will go with RimuHosting - tell them that you were referred by Denis Krukovsky. talkinghub went live at 2006 February 6: http://write-software.blogspot.com/2006/02/how-to-write-software-now-live.html First post: http://talkinghub.com/forum/tag//i-will-be-posting-content-here-instead-of-blogger-soon-2.html It wasn't talkinghub that time - the name has come later. BenjiSmith advices to make the service more understandable: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?biz.5.309199.3 Thanks Benji! Tag-based classification was added at February 16. Talkinghub got a name at 2006 February 19. That's the story so far! Now thanks all the people who supported me in my journey! Marcus Troiano runs an IT news blog and has a collection of some nice photos: http://marcustroiano.com/blog/ He liked the idea and gave me some useful comments. Thanks Marcus! A guy named CyberCoded runs blog - http://www.cybercoded.net/ - and makes money on small (and not so small) web software solutions - http://www.cybercoded.com/ . Thanks CyberCoded for your suggestions to me. Want to have a forum for your solutions on talkinghub? My short advice on cybercoded.net: you might want to create "Applications" page and briefly describe all your applications there. Ric Shreves runs software writings at http://ricshreves.net/ , blog on open source at http://postdb.ricshreves.net/ , and some other projects. He invited everyone to read my story. Pete Freitag runs blog on software development at http://www.petefreitag.com/ . It looks like he runs his blog on his own blog software. He even wrote "How To Make a Tag Cloud" article - http://www.petefreitag.com/item/396.cfm - where he described how a tag cloud works on his blog. Hey Pete, I like talkinghub tag cloud better. Nice man runs tech blog at http://www.cybernetnews.com . He opened my eyes that I need to fix my website layout to work under IE. David Kadavy runs good blog - http://kadavy.net/ , eats fat for money and recommends to write on Ruby. I wonder how do rubbyists do "Rename Method" refactoring? David Braverman - http://blog.braverman.org/ - blog on software and politics. Shrikant Joshi develops http://colayer.com/ - interesting view on information exchange. Thanks Shrikant for your suggestions. Max Ischenko runs Ukrainian developer's community at http://www.developers.org.ua/ , blogs on software development at http://max.textdriven.com/ , and develops book exchange service at http://knigoman.com.ua/ . Chris Jenkinson develops open source forum software at http://chimaera.starglade.org/aterr/ , maintains Wikipedia Forum article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum , and thinks to add tags to his forum at http://chimaera.starglade.org/forums/post/309 . Andrew Nesbitt runs popular tech blog at http://atariboy.wordpress.com/ . Thanks for your advices Andrew! Pete Cashmore runs popular blog on web 2.0 startups: http://www.mashable.com/ . Pete likes Wordpress forums more: http://www.mashable.com/weblist/talking-hub/ . Hey, no designer had an opportunity to touch talkinghub yet! Meredith runs blog on social web: http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/ Berlin Brown runs SpiritCompany at http://www.newspiritcompany.com/ , develops public service (not released yet), and released Calc System recently: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?biz.5.333643.24 Amanecer runs .net blog at http://amanecer9.blogspot.com/ Victor Zambrano runs design company at http://www.frwrd.net/ . AJAX site. Lindsay Donaghe writes about software and photography at http://www.macrolinz.com/macrolinz/ . Hey Lindsay, more suggestions from you? Bob Stumpel keeps list of web 2.0 services at http://www.openbc.com/cgi-bin/forum.fpl?op=showarticles&id=1333506 PRWeb publish press releases for you: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/3/prweb355096.htm Paul Terry Walhus developed a web 2.0 app which runs slide show of 1400 web 2.0 apps: http://web2slides.com/ Gavin Bowman runs a software company and business blog at http://webhelperbrowser.com/blog . Anyone I forgot please post your complaints here! Thanks people for your support! Denis Krukovsky author, talkinghub.com - 2 replies

RE: talkinghub got Pagerank 7

Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:22:35 GMT

Hi Denis, Thanks for the mention and glad the ideas were useful. I'd still recommend giving people some way to identify themselves in a post without typing their name in the post body. It would help in following the threads, but it would also be nice to include as another way to organize the posts. If you liked a post by someone, you could read other things that they'd posted. In your case (if I could filter posts by your name), it would be an easy way to follow the progress of talkinghub's development, for instance. RSS feeds would be useful. To keep people coming back if a thread they participated had new activity and make it easy to find those previous threads. I don't know how hard it would be to implement, but possibly make use of a service like tagthe.net. It takes your text and pulls out likely tags... that way you take the burden off of the user to come up with relavent tags for a post and make things easier to find. I like the idea of letting people start their own "hub". That's pretty cool. Keep up the good work! Lindsay Donaghe - 1 reply