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Welcome, and one tip

Thats a great post Philhow. Welcome to Blogoforum.

You came on the right time here. I'm brewing new ideas on how to let people to create their own communities here. If you're interested we can exchange a few words here or by email regarding how would you your community to work.

Meanwhile here is one trick (undocumented) you can do. Navigate to a topic of your interest, say http://blogoforum.com/tag/review+site+support+technology+web . You will find "edit forum description" there at the top right.

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You can set title and description for that place. Try it.

Denis Krukovsky
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by dkrukovsky
January 30, 2007 5:35 AM
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RE: Welcome, and one tip

Thanks for the welcome.

I am still not sure of what this site is going to be. A lot of good ideas for letting people interact and exchange ideas get ruined by abuse. The worst, of course is spamming.

A soon as there is an ability to post, you get spamming. Step 2 is a response to eliminate the spamming, an the site becomes more dificult to use, and the spammers start trying to game the site. That is the point at which things get stupid. On many sites I have seen, the most helpful posts and links get removed not because they are spam but because they are posted by a site owner or an author and there is an assumption that anyone posting their own stuff is a spammer; and anyone who post links primarily from one site is a spammer.

It has happened to me. I has happened to friends who blog or operate sites. What ends up happening is that the spammers increase pressure until a site goes to automated means of controlling them. The 'bot rules generally remove legitimate posts as well as some spam. The spammers find ways around the 'bots and a lot of legitimate poster just leave.

You end up with a small community that most talks to themselves, is suspicious of newcomers, and the site goes nowhere because to grow you have to keep the doors open, to help you have to tolerate a certain amount of crappy posting; and to become a real community you have to accept a diversity of people, cultures and ideas.

Consider a site like Digg. It used to be very wide open, tech oriented and a daily "must read". Now it is rapidly becoming a closed close community around a site filled with links to junk videos dominated by a handful of frequent poster that bury opinion, idea or proposal outside of a very narrow range of what they consider acceptable. IT becomes less and less usable as a technical resource, but the owners are not going to change direction because they are making money in the short term.

So I rant about site that go over to the dark side; try to influence sites that mght be viable support sites, and keep looking for new ideas like this. The biggest flaw I see with this concept, is that it is likely to end up dominated by a small group who post frequently and effective take over, while those with a life outside the Internet who post less frequently will have their voice drowned out.

Most community sites that speak of democracy and community control end up with little more than mob rule, or under the control of a small elite group who bully anyone not in the inner circle. We will see how this goes. I will post and rant for as long as I am tolerated.

by philhow
February 1, 2007 8:19 AM
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