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Why I Hate Frameworks by BenjiSmith
Some great writing by BenjiSmith:February 23, 2006 3:56 PM
http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.219431.12
This application was written using no frameworks. I picked up JSF initially but I dropped it as I get more experienced with it:
http://write-software.blogspot.com/2006/02/no-more-jsf.html
Denis Krukovsky.
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For such a simple application a servlet is of curse valuable. JSF comes into play if you are writing more complex web applications. Nevertheless i guess this app would be very easy to develop with JSF. There would also be several advantages like support for JSR 168 portlets for instance.March 9, 2006 4:23 AM
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To JSF Or Not To JSF
I think you are referring to this article:http://talkinghub.com/forum/message/article+development+dkrukovsky+framework+java+jsf+link+programming+talkinghub+web/java-web-development-can-be-much-easier-then-it-is-now-350.html
Thanks for your opinion. Would you provide a concrete sample?
See, I dismissed JSF not because JSF development was too complex. I dismissed JSF because it was unneccessary complex. And inflexible, even for such a simple app.
Note that I was trying unorthodoxal approach using plain html templates, minimum xml configs and no javabean layer. JSF + this approach failed for me, so I moved to better tool. If you are ok with using jsp pages then JSF can work well for you. This is just me finding more productive to work with plain html.
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I find it interesting that you don't use any framework here, as the frameworks can save a LOT of time. And if you write your own software from scratch, if you do it properly, you end up with something similar to a framework anyway.
by AutomatthiasSeptember 16, 2006 7:15 AM
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Good point, if only a framework is good enough, like Swing, or servlets, or JDBC. In case with JSF, that was thing that slowed the development down, and I'm satisfied alot with moving away from it.
It is probably true howewer that what I ended up with is something similar to Wicket, I would know it that time.
You can find other people on the net complaining about JSF unneccessary complexity and inflexibility.by dkrukovskySeptember 18, 2006 1:11 PM
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